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So funny to see it in words after hearing it so often.Sujatha Bagalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02140274113596874518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1157144310886308772006-09-01T13:58:00.000-07:002006-09-01T13:58:00.000-07:00Grasshopper.....wasn't Victor Kyam the person doin...Grasshopper.....wasn't Victor Kyam the person doing something with electric razors?? I know little about Victor Kyam. :-)<BR/><BR/>Bala.....too bad about not seeing conic sections. I know ISC (ICSE 11/12th) or CBSE do encounter conic sections. Interesting though that you got to read the rubayyat it Thamizh....didn't know translations existed, and were taught in school.<BR/><BR/>Pierce Butler.....good questions. Given Khayyams support from Nizam, he might have had access to very good craftsmen. But as far as clocks go....the Arabs were known to have excellent water clocks that perhaps measured seconds. As far as telescopes go, again it may be that during the middle ages Persia or Arabia had some very good telescopes.....that reached Europe during the crusades. This <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescopes" REL="nofollow">Wikipedia link</A> (don't know how good it is) suggests that Visby lenses may have been known to Arabs/Persians around the 10th century. I have no idea how exactly he did that though. Any information you could dig out will be fantastic! The link I had on the post (to Khayyams biography) is from a rather good website (from the University of St Andrews in Scotland, and is one of the best resources for biographies of mathematicians around though.....Sunilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07776658071546232685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1157124303563589662006-09-01T08:25:00.000-07:002006-09-01T08:25:00.000-07:00To have worked out the length of a year to 11 deci...To have worked out the length of a year to 11 decimal places must have required some high-precision equipment, which implies either that Khayyam was also an excellent craftsman or could call on a sophisticated artisanal infrastructure. He lived more than five centuries before Europeans had either telescopes or clocks which measured seconds - how could he have done this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1157112774850309462006-09-01T05:12:00.000-07:002006-09-01T05:12:00.000-07:00>>>.....any one who's finished 12th grade >>>>has ...>>>.....any one who's finished 12th grade >>>>has encountered conic sections, most >>>of us haven't read a line of the >>>Rubayyat.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm not in Tamil Nadu State Board Syllabus. I have read tamil translations of the rubbayat in atleast two different grades...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1157091251326581242006-08-31T23:14:00.000-07:002006-08-31T23:14:00.000-07:00Any relation to Victor Kyam?He liked Occam's razor...Any relation to Victor Kyam?<BR/>He liked Occam's razor so much, he bought the company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1156814176462560762006-08-28T18:16:00.000-07:002006-08-28T18:16:00.000-07:00heh....Mangesh, that's a good one. Live content :...heh....Mangesh, that's a good one. <I>Live</I> content :-)<BR/><BR/>Interesting though that there'll be a street in Florida named after Khayyam......who'd have thought?Sunilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07776658071546232685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1156776824662211862006-08-28T07:53:00.000-07:002006-08-28T07:53:00.000-07:00Thanks for the fascinating piece Sunil! Right oppo...Thanks for the fascinating piece Sunil! Right opposite the University of Central Florida in Orlando is a by-lane called Khayyam Avenue, and I have always wondered about what the Indian composer did to make such an impact in Orlando, that the street got his name. <BR/><BR/>I think I have my answer now, I will die content. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1156693979956345992006-08-27T08:52:00.000-07:002006-08-27T08:52:00.000-07:00heh....Amrit....I've always thought Khayyam's cont...heh....Amrit....I've always thought Khayyam's contribution to science was more valuable than his contribution to literature, but that's always relative though. But putting it this way.....any one who's finished 12th grade has encountered conic sections, most of us haven't read a line of the Rubayyat.<BR/><BR/>Apu.....that's a pity though. You might want to visit <A HREF="http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Biographies/" REL="nofollow">this website</A>, which lists ALL great mathematicians.......including many Indian ones. There were some really good studies, the discovery of the pythogoras theorem independent of (and actually before) Pythogoras by Bahudayana, for example. Indian mathematics was also very closely mixed with religion, so sometimes its hard to separate the fact from the belief :-). But there's a lot of that out there. And the conflict between religion and science is inevitable, given the nature of science, and of constant questioning, and of faith and absolute belief.<BR/><BR/>thanks, Sue. I'm not sure if science does have the last word though, even though I think i'm an optimist. Sometimes people are too caught up in their own beliefs and are so beyond openness.Sunilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07776658071546232685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1156662931181720692006-08-27T00:15:00.000-07:002006-08-27T00:15:00.000-07:00Nice post. Science always has the last word, doesn...Nice post. Science always has the last word, doesn't it? Just that it takes an incredibly long time sometimes..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8212356.post-1156493657716720362006-08-25T01:14:00.000-07:002006-08-25T01:14:00.000-07:00Very interesting indeed. In school, I dont remembe...Very interesting indeed. In school, I dont remember reading much about non-Western scientists and mathematicians (except for a couple of lines about Aryabhatta, and that more as a concession to Indian nationalism).<BR/><BR/>Its interesting to know that the conflict between scientific discoveries and long-held religious beliefs is something that stretched across different cultures.apuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07806361192017548240noreply@blogger.com